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PeterW: /* Inventory Usage */

2011-02-27T13:10:48Z

Inventory Usage

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	An inventory menu can be used to transfer objects between different containers. This generally requires mouse usage. There are two methods:		An inventory menu can be used to transfer objects between different containers. This generally requires mouse usage. There are two methods:
	* Drag & Drop: Click the item in the inventory, then hold mouse while moving it to the menu of another object.		* Drag & Drop: Click the item in the inventory, then hold mouse while moving it to the menu of another object.
	* Simple click: Clicking an item in an inventory transfers it to the most likely target. This means, in order:		* Simple click: Clicking an item in an inventory transfers it to the most likely target that is not the source inventory. This means, in order:
	# An inventory with a restricted item set, which matches the item type (e.g. production buildings requiring it)		# An inventory with a restricted item set, which matches the item type (e.g. production buildings requiring it)
	# A mobile container (lorry)		# A mobile container (lorry)

PeterW: /* Context menus */

2011-02-27T13:10:12Z

Context menus

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	# Building / construction site menus		# Building / construction site menus

	# Vehicle menus		# Vehicle menus

	# Clonk / item menus		# Clonk / item menus

PeterW at 12:58, 27 February 2011

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 Feedback is therefore obviously highly welcome. But please put it into the forum, so this document can stay consistent. I will try to update it whenever I feel that we have reached consensus on an issue.
 == Buildings ==
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 Buildings are the main strategic game element of Clonk. This means they shape how the game will shake out in the long run. Buildings should be designed so they are static until destruction, which should typically take considerable effort.
-== Construction ==
+=== Construction menu ===
-Constructing a building requires the Clonk to use a construction hammer. When the hammer gets activated where it is possible to perform a construction, it shows a menu above the Clonk, showing the building categories (production, structural, repair)
+Once a category gets selected, it takes the menu to a list of the buildings in that category. While the mouse hovers over a building, the cost of the building in terms of raw material as well as gold is shown, as specified in the "Menus" section.
-When a category gets selected, it takes the menu to the building list. When the mouse is over a building, it automatically shows a preview of the building. If the construction is possible at the current location, the preview will be a picture of the building as it would look like after construction, with a green color. Otherwise, it is shown at the Clonk's location, using a red color.
+In addition to the cost, hovering the mouse over a building automatically shows a '''preview''' of the building. If the construction is possible at the current location, the preview will be a picture of the building as it would look like after construction, with a green color. Otherwise, it is shown at the Clonk's location, using a red color.
-Some buildings might have construction aids that are shown alongside the preview (say, a preview of the shaft for the elevator, so you tell whether you will hit granite).
+Each building requires '''free space''' in order to build it, meaning that its face should not be covered be "too many" solid pixels or another building of the same plane. Additionally, some buildings might want to align themselves to existing buildings (structural buildings, see below). When it is not possible to construct a building at the Clonk's current location, a best effort should be made to find a close location where the structure can indeed be built. Where no special rules apply, this could be implemented as simply trying out construction sites in a given radius (say, 5 pixels). This should be visible in the preview.
-Each building requires free space in order to build it, meaning that its face should not be covered be "too many" solid pixels or another building of the same plane. Additionally, some buildings might add further constraints (structural buildings, see below). When it is not possible to construct a building at the Clonk's current location, a best effort should be made to find a close location where the structure can indeed be built. Where no special rules apply, this could be implemented as simply trying out construction sites in a given radius (say, 5 pixels). This should be visible in the preview.
+=== Construction Process ===
-=== Construction Material (ideas!) ===
+A construction site can only be constructed up to a certain point given by the percentage of the raw material required for it. The percentage is calculated using the weighted sum of all present raw materials multiplied by their worth.
-Ideas:
+If not all material is present and the construction site is contained in the base region of the player's team, a player might attempt to buy the rest of the materials by clicking the "buy" button. The cost is automatically calculated from the worth of the remaining raw materials (discuss?).
-=== Construction Process (ideas!) ===
+While there are enough materials to continue the construction, the construction site automatically slowly constructs itself. A Clonk might assist by activating an construction hammer in front of the construction site for a substantial speed boost. Each time a construction hammer is activated, all materials required for construction currently contained in the Clonk's backpack are automatically transferred to the building site.
-Ideas:
+It is not possible to remove any items from a construction site's inventory.
 == Destruction ==

PeterW: /* Structural Buildings */

2011-01-31T23:02:12Z

Structural Buildings

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	== Structural Buildings ==		== Structural Buildings ==

	The objective of structural buildings is to give the owner a passive advantage where they were built.		The objective of structural buildings is to give the owner a passive advantage where they were built. This typically means protection against enemy players or the environment.

	=== Walls ===		=== Walls ===

	The ~~basis~~ structural building is a wall. ~~Most other structural buildings require an existing wall, and~~ are ~~removed once~~ the ~~wall burns down~~.		The base structural building is a wall. It has fixed proportions that are larger than that of the highest production building.

	When a wall gets built close to another wall, its construction site will automatically be aligned with the existing wall. If the new construction site is invalid (e.g. not enough space) it is not possible to construct a wall at the given location. The construction preview should reflect this appropriately.		When a wall gets built close to another wall, its construction site will automatically be aligned with the existing wall. If the new construction site is invalid (e.g. not enough space) it is not possible to construct a wall at the given location. The construction preview should reflect this appropriately.

	When a wall finishes construction, it ~~might automatically gain~~ a number of ~~additional~~ features:		When a wall finishes construction, it becomes "static back", and remains at its position until it gets destroyed.

			=== Features ===

			Each wall can have a number of different "features" attached to it. These are mostly static themselves. When a wall is destroyed and a feature isn't attached to a wall anymore, it gets removed. Damage done to a feature is redirected to the wall.

			Upon construction, a wall automatically gains the following features:
	* A solid roof		* A solid roof
	* A fundament, if there is no wall below it		* A fundament, if there is no wall below it
	* If there is no wall on either side: Two doors left and right		* If there is no wall on either side: Two doors left and right
	* If there is one wall on either side: The feature of the existing wall is moved. No additional feature is added.		* If there is one wall on either side: The feature of the existing wall is moved. No additional feature is added.
			* A rail on either side where there's no other wall

			To construct a feature, the building hammer must be activated while standing at the wall where the feature should be constructed. For construction of a new roof, one must stand on top of the roof in question.

			=== Rail (ideas!) ===

			A rail is a small wall that is always at the top of walls on sides where there is no other wall. It is meant to be used as simple cover (it can be shot through) and should also make it impossible for Clonks to climb over them.

			''Any new cool ideas here?''

			=== Roofs ===

			All walls have some sort of roof. They can generally not be shot through without destroying the wall first. They can come in different versions that can be replaced by each other:
			* Solid - just a normal solid mask.
			* Ladder - the roof has a hole where a ladder goes through it. The ladder reaches a bit down. Clonks can jump on them to get to the upper level. Additionally, this adds a hole cover which automatically opens when a friendly Clonk climbs up on the ladder or stands still on top of the cover. Like doors, near enemy Clonks cause the cover to not open.
			* Elevator - this attaches a rope and a gear box to the roof, with an elevator case being attached.
			* Elevator shaft - this basically means a roof with a hole that the elevator fits through

	=== Fundaments ===		=== Fundaments ===

	~~Fundaments are what~~ is ~~created~~ under a wall ~~when there~~ is ~~no other~~ wall		A fundaments gets created on walls where there is no wall below. If a wall is built under another wall, the existing fundament is removed.

			Fundaments cannot be shot through with any projectile without first destroying the fundament (and therefore the wall).

			Fundament choices:
			* Normal solid
			* With a ladder: See roof
			* Elevator shaft: See roof

	=== Side Features ===		=== Side Features ===
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	These features can be added to the left and right sides of walls. When there is a wall right next to another wall, the left feature of one wall counts as the right feature of the other.		These features can be added to the left and right sides of walls. When there is a wall right next to another wall, the left feature of one wall counts as the right feature of the other.

	* Wall: Solid wall		* Wall: Solid wall.
	* Door: Solid wall with an opening that is normally blocked by a "door" object. It will open automatically when a friendly Clonk gets close, and will close automatically when an enemy Clonk is close. The door object can be destroyed separately.		* Door: Solid wall with an opening that is normally blocked by a "door" object. It will open automatically when a friendly Clonk gets close, and will close automatically when an enemy Clonk is close. The door object can be destroyed separately.
	* Drawbridge: Solid wall that can be rotated as a whole.		* Drawbridge: Solid wall that can be rotated as a whole.

			All side features can be shot through when standing close (maybe only on the inside?).

	... to be continued ...		... to be continued ...

PeterW: First feedback round

2011-01-31T19:41:54Z

First feedback round

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	== Buildings ==		== Buildings ==

	Buildings are the main strategic game element of Clonk. This means they shape how the game will shake out in the long run. Buildings should be designed ~~to be~~ so they are ~~long-lived and remain~~ static until ~~they are destroyed~~, which should typically take considerable effort.		Buildings are the main strategic game element of Clonk. This means they shape how the game will shake out in the long run. Buildings should be designed so they are static until destruction, which should typically take considerable effort.

	== Construction ==		== Construction ==
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	There are two ways to produce an item or a vehicle: Either by providing the raw materials required, or by buying it for an amount of gold. The latter requires the building to be currently owned by the player's team.		There are two ways to produce an item or a vehicle: Either by providing the raw materials required, or by buying it for an amount of gold. The latter requires the building to be currently owned by the player's team.

	Both the amount of gold required for buying as well as the amount of raw materials required for building may depend on the item/vehicle to be produced. Note however that the variety of of raw materials used in each production building should be kept low. For example, the ~~chamical~~ lab should only accept sulphur and coal (just skip the intermediate steps from CR).		Both the amount of gold required for buying as well as the amount of raw materials required for building may depend on the item/vehicle to be produced. Note however that the variety of raw materials used in each production building should be kept low. For example, the chemical lab should only accept sulphur and coal (just skip the intermediate steps from CR). Some production buildings might actually require material classes like "fuel" (coal/wood/oil).

	There are ~~three~~ ways to provide a building with ~~the~~ the raw materials required for a production:		There are two ways to provide a building with the raw materials required for a production:
	* Throw the material into a collection zone~~. The collection zone should ignore all material that the building does not consume, as well as any surplus raw material~~.		* Throw the material into a collection zone.
	* Drag & drop from the inventory		* Drag & drop from the inventory or a lorry
	* Place a container vehicle in front of the production building, e.g. a lorry.

	~~Production starts automatically once there~~ is ~~enough~~ material ~~present~~ to ~~produce an item~~. If there is ~~surplus~~ raw material~~, it gets placed in front of the building~~. The production building then enters a production state that might take some time to finish. The time may depend on the type of item being produced.		Both methods should ignore any material that is not a raw material used by the building. Each building should be able to store up to 20 items of each material. Surplus material doesn't get accepted. It should be visible from the outside how much raw material of each type a production building currently has.

			As long as a product is select, production will start automatically whenever there is enough raw material. The production building then enters a production state that might take some time to finish. The time may depend on the type of item being produced.

	After production, a produced item or vehicle is either:		After production, a produced item or vehicle is either:
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	=== User Interface ===		=== User Interface ===

	Each production building has a production menu that is shown as an overlay ~~shown~~ above the building once a Clonk approaches it.		Each production building has a production menu that is shown as an overlay above the building once a Clonk approaches it.

	Most prominently, the production menu should show the ~~currently selected product type, and what other~~ product types ~~are available~~. This should take the form of a menu~~, with the~~ currently selected product ~~type~~ appropriately highlighted. Clicking on a product type that is not currently selected makes it the new selection. Clicking on a currently selected product attempts to buy it.		Most prominently, the production menu should show a list of the available product types as well as an "idle" setting. This should take the form of a menu. If there is a currently selected product, it should be app appropriately highlighted in the menu. If no product is selected, the "idle" icon should be highlighted. Clicking on a product type that is not currently selected makes it the new selection. Clicking on a currently selected product again attempts to buy it. Clicking on the "idle" icon deactivates any production.

	Furthermore, the menu must show the raw materials required for the production. This should take the form of a separate row in the production menu, showing all raw material types the building can consume. Each one should be annotated with a caption in the form of "X/Y" where X is the number of raw objects currently present and Y is the number of raw objects required to start production. Note that Y might be 0, in which case the object in question is not required for the selected product, but for other possible products of the building.		Furthermore, the menu must show the raw materials required for the production. This should take the form of a separate row in the production menu, showing all raw material types the building can consume. Each one should be annotated with a caption in the form of "X/Y" where X is the number of raw objects currently present and Y is the number of raw objects required to start production. Note that Y might be 0, in which case the object in question is not required for the selected product, but for other possible products of the building.

	~~Lasty~~, the menu should show the cost of the object in gold. This could be hidden when the player's does not currently own the production building.		Lastly, the menu should show the cost of the object in gold. This could be hidden when the player's does not currently own the production building.

	=== Ideas & Notes ===		=== Ideas & Notes ===
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	* If there is no wall on either side: Two doors left and right		* If there is no wall on either side: Two doors left and right
	* If there is one wall on either side: The feature of the existing wall is moved. No additional feature is added.		* If there is one wall on either side: The feature of the existing wall is moved. No additional feature is added.

			=== Fundaments ===

			Fundaments are what is created under a wall when there is no other wall

	=== Side Features ===		=== Side Features ===

Ringwaul: /* Construction Process (ideas!) */

2011-01-29T22:10:39Z

Construction Process (ideas!)

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	Ideas:		Ideas:
	* Construction works automatically (magic!)		* Construction works automatically (magic!)
			* Have NPC Clonks build it :x
	* Enemies should be able to cancel it, though.		* Enemies should be able to cancel it, though.

PeterW at 20:35, 29 January 2011

2011-01-29T20:35:51Z

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	This is ~~the~~ settlement concept as I (PeterW) currently would like to see it implemented. It already contains a lot of ideas from other people, and I fully expect it to see a lot of updates when people think up better solutions. There are ~~even~~ sections marked as "'''ideas!'''" where I feel substantial improvements will be necessary in order to reach a good solution.		This is a settlement concept as I (PeterW) currently would like to see it implemented. It already contains a lot of ideas from other people, and I fully expect it to see a lot of updates when people think up better solutions. There even are sections marked as "'''ideas!'''" where I feel substantial improvements will be necessary in order to reach a good solution.

	Feedback is ~~theefore~~ highly welcome. But please put it into the forum, so this document can stay consistent. I will try to update it whenever I feel that we have reached consensus on an issue.		Feedback is therefore obviously highly welcome. But please put it into the forum, so this document can stay consistent. I will try to update it whenever I feel that we have reached consensus on an issue.

	== Buildings ==		== Buildings ==

	Buildings are the main strategic game element of Clonk. This means they shape how the game will shake out in the long run. ~~There buildings~~ should be designed to be so they are long-lived and remain static until they are destroyed, which typically ~~takes~~ considerable effort.		Buildings are the main strategic game element of Clonk. This means they shape how the game will shake out in the long run. Buildings should be designed to be so they are long-lived and remain static until they are destroyed, which should typically take considerable effort.

	== Construction ==		== Construction ==

PeterW: Working...

2011-01-29T19:02:48Z

Working...

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-== Ground Rules ==
+This is the settlement concept as I (PeterW) currently would like to see it implemented. It already contains a lot of ideas from other people, and I fully expect it to see a lot of updates when people think up better solutions. There are even sections marked as "'''ideas!'''" where I feel substantial improvements will be necessary in order to reach a good solution.
-It should not be possible to enter buildings. They might have limited "storage" for certain object types, typically because they consume them. But this should be heavily limited, lorries and other vehicles should be the main way to store stuff.
+Feedback is theefore highly welcome. But please put it into the forum, so this document can stay consistent. I will try to update it whenever I feel that we have reached consensus on an issue.
-Buildings can't be rotated (sorry...). Buildings can't be grabbed.
+== Buildings ==
 == Production Buildings ==
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 Production buildings are about giving the settlement access to certain types of items or vehicles. Each production building should cover one class of items or vehicles.
-Compared to CR, these buildings should be relatively small. They should generally have no fundament.
+They are ''not defensive buildings'', and therefore do nothing to protect Clonks or themselves. They might burn down quickly, have no fundament and don't provide an interior for Clonks to hide.
 === Function ===
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 == Structural Buildings ==
-The objective of structural buildings is to give the owner a tactical advantage where it was built. They do this typically by providing shelter from enemy attacks, like providing a solid mask to hide behind.
+The objective of structural buildings is to give the owner a passive advantage where they were built.
 ... to be continued ...

PeterW at 23:38, 27 January 2011

2011-01-27T23:38:09Z

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	== Production Buildings ==		== Production Buildings ==

	Production buildings are about giving the settlement access to certain types of items or vehicles. Each production building should cover one class of items.		Production buildings are about giving the settlement access to certain types of items or vehicles. Each production building should cover one class of items or vehicles.

	~~Relative~~ to CR, these buildings should be relatively small. They should generally have no fundament.		Compared to CR, these buildings should be relatively small. They should generally have no fundament.

	=== Function ===		=== Function ===

	There are two ways to produce an item or a vehicle: Either by providing the raw materials required ~~to build it~~, or by buying it for an amount of gold. The latter requires the building to be currently owned by the player's team.		There are two ways to produce an item or a vehicle: Either by providing the raw materials required, or by buying it for an amount of gold. The latter requires the building to be currently owned by the player's team.

	Both the amount of gold required for buying as well as the amount of raw materials required for building may depend on the item to be produced. Note however that the variety of of raw materials used in each production building should be kept low. For example, the chamical lab should only accept sulphur and coal (just skip the intermediate steps from CR).		Both the amount of gold required for buying as well as the amount of raw materials required for building may depend on the item/vehicle to be produced. Note however that the variety of of raw materials used in each production building should be kept low. For example, the chamical lab should only accept sulphur and coal (just skip the intermediate steps from CR).

	There are three ways to provide a building with the the raw materials required for a production:		There are three ways to provide a building with the the raw materials required for a production:
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	=== User Interface ===		=== User Interface ===

	Each production building has a production menu that is shown as an overlay ~~over~~ the building once a Clonk approaches it.		Each production building has a production menu that is shown as an overlay shown above the building once a Clonk approaches it.

	Most prominently, the production menu should show the currently selected product type, and what other product types are available. This should take the form of a menu, with the currently selected product type appropriately highlighted. Clicking on a product type that is not currently selected makes it the new selection. Clicking on a currently selected product attempts to buy it.		Most prominently, the production menu should show the currently selected product type, and what other product types are available. This should take the form of a menu, with the currently selected product type appropriately highlighted. Clicking on a product type that is not currently selected makes it the new selection. Clicking on a currently selected product attempts to buy it.
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	Furthermore, the menu must show the raw materials required for the production. This should take the form of a separate row in the production menu, showing all raw material types the building can consume. Each one should be annotated with a caption in the form of "X/Y" where X is the number of raw objects currently present and Y is the number of raw objects required to start production. Note that Y might be 0, in which case the object in question is not required for the selected product, but for other possible products of the building.		Furthermore, the menu must show the raw materials required for the production. This should take the form of a separate row in the production menu, showing all raw material types the building can consume. Each one should be annotated with a caption in the form of "X/Y" where X is the number of raw objects currently present and Y is the number of raw objects required to start production. Note that Y might be 0, in which case the object in question is not required for the selected product, but for other possible products of the building.

	~~The~~ cost of the object, in ~~case it was bought~~. This could be hidden when the player's does not currently own the production building.		Lasty, the menu should show the cost of the object in gold. This could be hidden when the player's does not currently own the production building.

	=== Ideas & Notes ===		=== Ideas & Notes ===

PeterW: Created page with "== Ground Rules == It should not be possible to enter buildings. They might have limited "storage" for certain object types, typically because they consume them. But this should…"

2011-01-27T23:18:53Z

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== Ground Rules ==

It should not be possible to enter buildings. They might have limited "storage" for certain object types, typically because they consume them. But this should be heavily limited, lorries and other vehicles should be the main way to store stuff.

Buildings can't be rotated (sorry...). Buildings can't be grabbed.

== Production Buildings ==

Production buildings are about giving the settlement access to certain types of items or vehicles. Each production building should cover one class of items.

Relative to CR, these buildings should be relatively small. They should generally have no fundament.

=== Function ===

There are two ways to produce an item or a vehicle: Either by providing the raw materials required to build it, or by buying it for an amount of gold. The latter requires the building to be currently owned by the player's team.

Both the amount of gold required for buying as well as the amount of raw materials required for building may depend on the item to be produced. Note however that the variety of of raw materials used in each production building should be kept low. For example, the chamical lab should only accept sulphur and coal (just skip the intermediate steps from CR).

There are three ways to provide a building with the the raw materials required for a production:
* Throw the material into a collection zone. The collection zone should ignore all material that the building does not consume, as well as any surplus raw material.
* Drag & drop from the inventory
* Place a container vehicle in front of the production building, e.g. a lorry.

Production starts automatically once there is enough material present to produce an item. If there is surplus raw material, it gets placed in front of the building. The production building then enters a production state that might take some time to finish. The time may depend on the type of item being produced.

After production, a produced item or vehicle is either:
* Placed into a container in front of the production building (preferred)
* Dropped in front of the building

=== User Interface ===

Each production building has a production menu that is shown as an overlay over the building once a Clonk approaches it.

Most prominently, the production menu should show the currently selected product type, and what other product types are available. This should take the form of a menu, with the currently selected product type appropriately highlighted. Clicking on a product type that is not currently selected makes it the new selection. Clicking on a currently selected product attempts to buy it.

Furthermore, the menu must show the raw materials required for the production. This should take the form of a separate row in the production menu, showing all raw material types the building can consume. Each one should be annotated with a caption in the form of "X/Y" where X is the number of raw objects currently present and Y is the number of raw objects required to start production. Note that Y might be 0, in which case the object in question is not required for the selected product, but for other possible products of the building.

The cost of the object, in case it was bought. This could be hidden when the player's does not currently own the production building.

=== Ideas & Notes ===

* Exploration: Need a way to find out about stuff *before* you produce it. Mousing over unselected product types could semi-highlight them, show production cost and maybe some info text. Not much a fan of tooltips, need to think about where to place them.

* Automatically getting stuff out of lorries might be a bit too much. We don't really want production buildings to empty lorries while they are pushed through. Two fixes that don't kill the system:
** Ignore lorries that aren't currently standing
** Allow to "unselect" product by clicking somewhere neutral in the production menu

* Take over the traditional diagonal item exits? I find them cumbersome.

== Structural Buildings ==

The objective of structural buildings is to give the owner a tactical advantage where it was built. They do this typically by providing shelter from enemy attacks, like providing a solid mask to hide behind.

... to be continued ...